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MIND CONTROL 39 – JESUS VS PAUL

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Now let’s blow the whole case wide open.

Let us do a comparison between Paul and Jesus and the things they have to say on various issues.

Maybe you can help me determine if the message of Paul and the message of Jesus are the same.

The result of this exercise may be quite staggering.

Paul says:

Eph.1:7
[7] In him we have redemption THROUGH HIS BLOOD, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace

Jesus says:

Matt.6:
[14] For IF YOU FORGIVE MEN THEIR TRESSPASSES YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER ALSO WILL FORGIVE YOU;
[15] but if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses

Are Paul and Jesus saying the same thing?

Paul says:

Rom.3
[24] they are JUSTIFIED BY HIS GRACE as a gift, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus,
[28] For we hold that a man is JUSTIFIED BY FAITH apart from works of law.

Rom.5
[9] Since, therefore, we are now JUSTIFIED BY HIS BLOOD, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.

Jesus says:
Matt.12:
[37] FOR BY YOUR WORDS YOU WILL BE JUSTIFIED, AND BY YOUR WORDS YOU WILL BE CONDEMNED.

So how will you be justified?…… According to Paul you are justified by grace, faith and blood.

According to Jesus you will be justified by your words….

Who are you going to believe?

Paul says:

Rom.6
[23] For the wages of sin is death, but THE FREE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Jesus says:

Matt.19
[29] And every one WHO HAS LEFT houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands, for my name’s sake, will receive a hundredfold, and inherit eternal life.
Luke.14
[28] For which of you, desiring to build a tower, does not first sit down and COUNT THE COST, whether he has enough to complete it?
[33] So therefore, WHOEVER OF YOU DOES NOT RENOUNCE ALL HE HAS CANNOT BE MY DISCIPLE.

Paul says eternal life is a free gift from God

Jesus says eternal life will cost you something……houses, brothers, lands e.tc.

In fact….if you do not renounce everything that you have….you cannot be a disciple of Jesus.

Evidently…..eternal life from the perspective of Jesus is clearly pretty expensive.

Who are you going to believe?

Paul…..or Jesus.

Paul says:

I Corinthians 15:
31: I protest, brethren, by my pride in you which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I DIE EVERY DAY!

Jesus says:

John 11
26: and whoever lives and believes in me SHALL NEVER DIE.

Paul says he dies every day

Jesus says if you believe in him you will never die.

Does it sound to you as if Paul is a disciple of Jesus? Or is he a disciple of someone else?

Paul says:

Rom 14:9
9 For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of BOTH THE DEAD AND THE LIVING.

Jesus says:
Luke 20:38
38 “HE IS NOT THE GOD OF THE DEAD BUT OF THE LIVING, FOR ALL LIVE TO HIM

Is it the same God that Paul and Jesus are talking about?

Paul says:

1Cor.4
[15] For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I BECAME YOUR FATHER IN CHRIST JESUS THROUGH THE GOSPEL.
Phlm.1
[10] I appeal to you for my child, Ones’imus, WHOSE FATHER I HAVE BECOME in my imprisonment.

Jesus says:

Matt.23
[9] And CALL NO MAN YOUR FATHER ON EARTH, FOR YOU HAVE ONE FATHER, WHO IS IN HEAVEN.

If Paul is a disciple of Jesus……..how could he have become someone’s father through the gospel….when the gospel of Jesus instructs that you should call no man on earth your father?

Is Paul preaching the message of Jesus……or is he preaching a different message?

Paul says:

1Cor.12
[28] And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third, TEACHERS,
Eph.4
[11] And his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and TEACHERS,
1Tim.2
[7] For this I was appointed a preacher and apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a TEACHER of the Gentiles in faith and truth.
2Tim.1
[11] For this gospel I was appointed a preacher and apostle and TEACHER,

Jesus says:

Matt.23
[8] But you are not to be called rabbi, for YOU HAVE ONE TEACHER, AND YOU ARE ALL BRETHREN.
How did Paul become a teacher if Jesus says you have only one teacher?

If Paul is a disciple of Jesus…….why is his message so dramatically different?

Paul says:

Eph.4
[11] And his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some PASTORS (SHEPHERDS) and teachers,

Jesus says:

John.10
[16] And I have other sheep, that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will heed my voice. So there shall be one flock, ONE SHEPHERD.

If Jesus says there is only one shepherd……why is Paul saying that Jesus anointed people to be shepherds? …….Is Paul telling the truth….or is he once again making things up?

Paul says:

1Cor.4
[15] For though you have COUNTLESS LEADERS in Christ . . ..

Jesus says:

Matt.23
[10] Neither be called leaders, for YOU HAVE ONE LEADER, THE CHRIST

Paul says you have countless leaders in Christ

Christ himself says you have only one leader

Who are you going to believe? …….Jesus or Paul?

Paul says:

1Cor.5
[7] FOR CHRIST, OUR PASCHAL LAMB, HAS BEEN SACRIFICED.
Eph.5
[2] And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and SACRIFICE TO GOD.

Jesus says:
Matt.9
[13] Go and learn what this means, `I DESIRE MERCY, AND NOT SACRIFICE.’

Paul says that Jesus is a sacrifice

Jesus says that God does not want sacrifices

Who are you going to believe?

Jesus……or Paul?

Paul says:

Rom.10
[4] For CHRIST IS THE END OF THE LAW, that every one who has faith may be justified.

Jesus says:

Matt.5
[17] THINK NOT THAT I HAVE COME TO ABOLISH THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS; I HAVE NOT COME TO ABOLISH THEM BUT TO FULFILL THEM.
[18] For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished.

Paul says Christ is the end of the law

Christ himself says he did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it.

Who are you going to believe?

Jesus……or Paul?

Paul says:

Rom.3
[9] What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all; for I have already charged that all men, both Jews and Greeks, are under the power of sin,
[10] as it is written: “NONE IS RIGHTEOUS, NO, NOT ONE;
[22] For THERE IS NO DISTINCTION;
[23] since ALL HAVE SINNED AND FALL SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD . .

Jesus says:

Matt.12
[35] THE GOOD MAN OUT OF HIS GOOD TREASURE BRINGS FORTH GOOD, and the evil man out of his evil treasure brings forth evil.
Luke.6
[45] THE GOOD MAN OUT OF THE GOOD TREASURE OF HIS HEART PRODUCES GOOD, and the evil man out of his evil treasure produces evil; for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.
Matt.23
[35] that upon you may come all the RIGHTEOUS BLOOD shed on earth, from the blood of innocent Abel to the blood of Zechari’ah the son of Barachi’ah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar.

According to Paul there is no righteous person that has ever existed……because everyone is a sinner and has come short of the glory of God

According to Jesus on the other hand…..there are good people who bring forth good from their hearts……..also….righteous blood comes from righteous people….. needless to say.

So where is Paul getting his information from? …… or is he just deceiving people?

Paul says:

2Cor.8
[21] for WE AIM AT WHAT IS HONOURABLE NOT ONLY IN THE LORDS SIGHT BUT ALSO IN THE SIGHT OF MEN.
Rom.12
[17] Repay no one evil for evil, but TAKE THOUGHT FOR WHAT IS NOBLE IN THE SIGHT OF MEN.
Rom.14
[18] he who thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and APPROVED BY MEN.
1Cor.10
[33] just as I TRY TO PLEASE ALL MEN IN EVERYTHING I DO, not seeking my own advantage, but that of many, that they may be saved.

Jesus says:

Luke.16
[15] But he said to them, You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts; for WHAT IS EXALTED AMONG MEN IS AN ABOMINATION IN THE SIGHT OF GOD.
Luke.6
[26] WOE TO YOU, WHEN MEN SPEAK WELL OF YOU, for so their fathers did to the false prophets.
Paul tries to please everybody

Jesus says you are cursed when men speak well of you

Does it look as if Paul is a follower of Jesus?

Or is Paul just doing things to please men?

Paul says:

Rom.9
[15] For he says to Moses, “I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I WILL HAVE MERCY, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”
[16] So it depends not upon man’s will or exertion, but upon God’s mercy.
[18] So then HE HAS MERCY ON WHOMEVER HE WILL, AND HE HARDENS THE HEART OF WHOMEVER HE WILLS.

Jesus says:

Matt.5
[7] BLESSED ARE THE MERCIFUL, FOR THEY SHALL OBTAIN MERCY.

According to Paul, God simply has mercy on whoever he feels like having mercy on.

According to Jesus if you are a merciful person…..you will receive mercy from God.

Quite clearly……Paul is either a liar…..or he does not know what he is talking about.

Paul says:

Rom.13
[9] The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not kill, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and any other commandment, are SUMMED UP IN ONE SENTENCE, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.

Jesus says:

Matt.22
[37] And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
[38] This is the great and first commandment.
[39] And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
[40] On these TWO COMMANDMENTS depend all the law and the prophets.
Paul says there is one commandment….love your neighbour as yourself

Jesus says there are 2 commandments…..love your neighbour as yourself….but first and foremost…..love God with all your heart, soul and mind.

Is it a coincidence that Paul conveniently leaves out loving God?

Or is it that Paul quite simply does not want you to love God?

In the film “the usual suspects” there is an interesting line that one of the characters used.

“The greatest trick the devil ever pulled, was convincing the world that he didn’t exist”.

Let me show you an even greater trick.

“The greatest trick the devil ever pulled, was convincing the world that he was a follower of Christ.”

The level of precision and time that Paul has spent in creating his message in such a snake like manner that he comes across as an angel is so frightening that one really needs to ask this question.

Could Paul be the “devil himself”?

It might sound a bit far fetched……but let’s think about it for a second.

This man has preached a message so staggeringly different from the message of Jesus…….yet the whole of Christianity follows him blindly.

Paul has caused billions of people to miss heaven simply by his misleading concept of salvation alone.

His everlasting scam has existed for thousands of years in a book that men claim to be the word of God.

When the whole time the word of God was never a book……the word of God is Jesus Christ.

At this point you are probably wondering why the world has never seen this before.

Is this information I am giving you anything new?

Far from it

Lots of people have written about this and spoken about it…… but we never listened……we never checked…..we never researched……we just had faith and believed even though some things never made sense.

So for the benefit of the discussion.

Let’s take a look at what a few other people have to say about Paul.

To be continued……

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Posted by on April 29, 2011 in THOUGHTS

 

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