Welcome once again to radical discussions, where Femi A and Femi J have a series of arguments about various controversial and life changing topics. The rules of war are simple – we both choose a side and the debate begins.
Feel free to join in, but we do warn you that this battle ground is only for the open minded.
Now that we have our usual introduction out of the way, let’s jump into the discussion:
“Is the message of Paul the Apostle different from the message of Jesus Christ?’
I will begin by taking the position of “Yes”. The message of Paul is without a doubt a completely different message from the message of Jesus Christ.
There are many directions in which this debate can go, because i intend to highlight “many considerable differences” between both messages.
At this point i will begin with an example of one of those differences:
1 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practise what they preach. 4 They tie up heavy loads and put them on men’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them. 5 Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long; 6 they love the place of honour at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7 they love to be greeted in the market-places and to have men call them ‘Rabbi’. 8 BUT YOU ARE NOT TO BE CALLED ‘RABBI’, for you have only one Master and you are all brothers. 9 AND DO NOT CALL ANYONE ON EARTH ‘FATHER’, for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10 NOR ARE YOU TO BE CALLED ‘TEACHER’, for you have one Teacher, the Christ. 11 The greatest among you will be your servant.12 For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
The instructions/message of Jesus in this passage is pretty straight forward and clear.
You are not to be called Rabbi/Pastor/Teacher/Father/Master.
There is only “one” teacher – Jesus Christ and there is only “one” father – who is in heaven.
Paul on the other hand says –
4 There is one body and one Spirit— just as you were called to one hope when you were called— 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. 7 But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. 8 This is why it says: When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men. 9 (What does he ascended mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) 11 IT WAS HE WHO GAVE SOME TO BE APOSTLES, SOME TO BE PROPHETS, SOME TO BE EVANGELISTS, AND SOME TO BE PASTORS AND TEACHERS. 12 to prepare God’s people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up
How did Paul come to the conclusion that Jesus gave gifts to men, some to be apostles, evangelists, pastors and teachers?
Either Paul does not know that there should only be “one teacher”, or he knows the truth and is deliberately distorting the message of Christ.
Nevertheless the society of today has chosen to follow the message of Paul, rather than the message of Christ – because there are thousands of pastors, apostles, bishops, teachers and “fathers in the lord”, who all think they have been given some sort of special gift.
This is only one of the very many discrepancies we will explore between the message of Jesus and the message of Paul.
But for now i pose the question to you.
Why is Paul appointing teachers, if Jesus says there should be only one?
Femi J. a.k.a Mystikey. Your move 🙂